_Interview with Josephine Bosma_

Mary-anne Breeze, better known as Mez, lives and works in Australia.
She first got into a larger net.art picture in 1997, via the net.art
mailinglist 7-11. Her work is highly 'textual', but expands to for
instance sound as well. Considering the relationship between concrete
poetry and music or sound, this probably should come as no surprise.
She likes to change her name (mz post modemism, mezchine,
ms Tech.no.whore, flesque, e-mauler, and mezflesque.exe) and maybe
because of this, plus the nature of her work, she has a less clearly
demarcated position then some other net.artists. This relative
'instability', compared to some highly compact web artworks is one of
the attractive sides of her work for me.

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JB: How would you describe the kind of net art you make?

Mez: Hard question this one, basically because of the immediate
temptation to launch into my trademark writing style/language;
that is to 'mezangelle'. This style of writing/textual construction
[that has at its base email dialogues and network exchanges]
underpins all my net.artwork, even the more image intensive versions.
The format evolved from a series of emailed collaborative pieces
carried out with m@ [Matt Hoessli from the CADRE Institute] on the
7-11 mailing list from '96 onwards. At the time, I was into switching
avatarian cloaks [the most regular being 'ms post modemism'] which
is another defining criteria of my net.artwork. My particular 'angle'
was to take the information text tracts m@ would post and 'mangle'
them through free/multi-word associative techniques and repost them
- hence the term, mezangelle. This technique has developed since,
with computer code conventions and regular chat/email iconographs
contributing to its formulation.

If I were to answer the above question in my 'mezangelle' style:
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::N 1 Word: mezangelled
::N 1 Sentence: the con[nned]flagration B-tween m-mage N text[ual]/sound N
fr[ott]ag[e].mentation ov breath/lec.tron.ics N flesh
::In Many Wordz: Eye make sever.all versionz of [intra]net[worked].art,
each 1 par.tic[k].ular 2 mi conceptual n-tent m-bedded within you.knitz/
phone.tick-tock snippettes…labellez/cat.e.gori[cal]es that somehow get
shrinkwordwrapped ah-round my stuph alwaze zeem som[a]how n-adequate…
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Translated, this mezangelled tract would read:

In/using one word, I'd describe the kind of net.artwork I make
as 'mezangelled'. In/using one sentence, I'd describe it as a
conflagration between image, text and sound + a fragmentation
[allusion of frottage as well here] of breath, electronics and flesh.
Extended, the description would be that I make several versions of
networked art, each one particular to my conceptual intent, which is
imbedded within units/phonetic snippets [hence, the audience/'you'
actively knit the units/ connections together]. The labels and
categories that are applied [or 'word shrink-wrapped'] to my
artwork/stuff always seem somehow inadequate.

The mezangelle phonetic/text-assemblage focus is what creates
my 'style'; this overlaps into my more image-oriented work in the
use of multiple gif images [and lately, Flash technology]. In several
of my works I employ units of repeated animated images, in order to
create a 'cloning' aesthetic - the unit is the important visual key,
and is repeated infinitely [to create data echoes, resonances].
Also, my emphasis on collaborative efforts include a breaking down of
dialogical traditions, of shifting the units of information and
communication from the usual and expected to the cryptic…it's about
active layering, and encouraging varied interpretation.

JB: Could I say you have a preoccupation with language and poetry?

Mez: You could, though I'm not quite sure how accurate this is...
outwardly, my work has all the habitual signs of a language
preoccupation, and who knows, language is probably my narcotic.
It's hard for me to judge, in that if I actively and consciously
recognize the nature of my net.artwork practice and the mechanisms
I employ whilst I'm creating, then I'm likely to produce stilted,
predicable work. I think this may also be the case for [some] other
net.artists. Regarding poetry, it's a label I'm uncomfortable with.
Some of my textual work verges on orthodox poetry boundaries in that
I use succinct emotive phrases/words etc; however, I like to think
that my work bypasses these regular formats of traditional writing,
through their network dependency if nothing else.

JB: Can you maybe explain to us humble ordinary prose writers what
drives some net artists and net rebels to write in ascii poetry,
near grafiti style?

Mez: 'Humble ordinary prose writers'? What the hell are they??
[just joking]. I'm not sure if I can speak for other net.artists but
I think the drive to create differing modes of textual production
[including ascii] stems from utilizing the basic building blocks of a
networked medium. For example, my text tracts are influenced by the
jargon and developing conventions that pepper various mailing lists,
IRC chat channels, and multiplayer games. I think the use of these
styles is a reflection of the informatic culture that exists on/in the
network itself.

JB: Do you see a difference between 'new' and 'old' net artists,
or (a tricky question) between female and male artists?

Mez: I don't think the distinction between 'new' and 'old'/female and
male net.artists should be an issue. Having said that, of course I'm
not naive enough to actually believe that categorization isn't an issue
in this PPP [Proto-Post-Potential] utopia we call the [inter]net.work.
One of the things I used to cherish about the net was its ability to
promote ambiguity through the ideas of extended ownership and indistinct
authorship. I'm not sure if these ideals still exist, with net.artists
having to retract into distinctly smaller niches within
corporate/mainstreaming informatic spaces, almost being compelled to
stake out an regulation authored space as they go. I think the
distinction between masculine and feminine oriented net.art maybe more
useful, in that it describes a perspective that is specific towards
the work itself, rather than placing the emphasis on the creator.

JB: Do you make special use of mailinglists and email?

Mez: Can I just answer a resounding 'yes' to this? [joking] This
aspect of network communication has actually made my net.art possible;
from volleying mezangelled mails back and forth with collaborators, to
using the variations in my signature file as a narrative slogan venue
[see my latest sig file with the 1st instalment/springboard text:
'luv yr [net]wurk'], to indulging in rampant word play and banter that
later may enter into a fict/faction piece…it all adds up.

JB: Is making art your first occupation, or is it an addition to other
 work?

Mez: Constructing/channeling the necessary play/exploration involved in
creating net.art is what I do. My 'other work' [arts journalism and
critiquing] is carried out purely in order to feed, house and supply
the biomezchanics, though I do kinda grudgingly enjoy it.

As yet, my projects have yet to be funded [aka acceptably rubber
stamped] via the Australian arts grant circuit so this makes my
'paid work' a necessary evil. I suppose my preference for blurring my
identity via avatarian constructs makes this difficult, in that I'm
yet to establish a persona that has concrete/identifiable markers
required by most of the relevant funding bodies. As yet, my net.artwork
commissions have come largely from overseas organizations.

JB: Did you study at any art school? What is your background?

Mez: I've studied extensively [possibly too much] though not in the
accepted academic hierarchical sense …I've swapped my learning-curve
emphasis around, and have degrees in both Applied Social Science
[Psychology], Creative Writing, and a diploma in Fine Arts. My
professional arts career was kicked-started as a hybrid writer/painter,
though I was never satisfied with the medium[s] and my work was
embraced within the umbrella-label 'installation'…I had the urge to
use the notion of scientific order to mask/covertly highlight another
type of 'random' order, the irrational, the 'feminine' undertow
…this lead to the computer, to play & integration [play is absolutely
crucial to my work, if I don't allow myself the time to absorb and
digest and information-trawl, I'm lost].

JB: What should good net art contain in your opinion?

Mez: I think it's probably easier to give my opinion on what 'bad'
[or non-engaging] net.art is, and just work backwards. Work that
puts the latest software/technique first [at the expense of the overall
aesthetic/conceptual impact] or that panders to the established art
market/bandwagon whilst making little effort to explore the medium
[graphic designed made-to-order net.'art'] just doesn't grab me.
Net.art that utilizes the very grain and grit of the network, that
stretches preconceived artistic notions, that makes me unsure of the
very principles that govern the interface/project, that throws a
reliance on hackneyed dataface terminology out the window and creates
its own, that blasts open my intellect and sensory faculties is what
it should be all about.

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http://wollongong.starway.net.au/`mezandwalt/

overview of past activities:

http://wollongong.starway.net.au/~mezandwalt/resume2.htm

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