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Cyberpunky's Staging and Imaging
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What does imaging and staging even mean?

Staging is about where we would here a live band coming from, if we closed our eyes, and could accurately hear this band playing on a stage in front of us, the hence the term stage, providing this band was recorded well of course. Do we hear the stage out over the bonnet or is it over the dash, is the stage wide, and does it have depth, is it at the right height, and does it have ambience. Imaging is about the focus and placement of instruments or sounds, across this stage.

How Do We Judge All This

To judge all this we can break it down into 4 sections, relating to staging, plus imaging and ambience. All of these factors are interrelated and so it is hard to do well overall, if one or more areas are poor. If we play a live bands music and we can clearly hear they are out over the bonnet or beyond, the car would have good stage position relative to the listener's position. If we can hear that the band is playing over wide area, across the bonnet, then the stage is considered wide. Stage depth is the ability to hear a singer up front and a bass guitar down the back for example. The height is wether the band sounds up in the air or below the floor or just right (dents in the bonnet :)).

When listening for imaging we like to hear clearly the point something comes from. Sometimes vocals may be sharply placed and focused, but other instruments are less defined, and so having good imaging and staging, is far harder than simply mounting tweeters on the A pillars. Then we also have ambience, and this about, does it sound big and large, if it is an orchestra in a large concert hall, or small and confined, if it's a small acoustic ensemble in a small venue, etc.

Listening

The best way to listen for these factors is to use a reference disc that comes with tracks with stage maps, so you have an idea of what instrument is meant to be placed where, for each track. I use the IASCA disc and manual but I believe Chesky and others make similar set up discs with maps etc. The next thing to do is to shut your eyes and listen carefully, as sometimes these things are very subtle, and having eyes open can influence, or distract us, from actually listening properly. Now armed with all this info and set up discs etc, its worth trying to get a listen to a high end home stereo to see how all this works in reality. Often stores that sell this hi end stuff will allow you to audition stuff capable of revealing all these desired factors to do with staging/imaging. Once you have heard what you are trying to achieve, it will make it easier to tell when you have mounting position right or at its best in your car.

Kick Panel Mounting

The kick panels in most cars, place the speakers the furthest away from our ears, compared to the doors or dash, where the nearside speaker will be very close. This kick panel mounting is said to be more equidistant than door mounts, as both speakers are closer to the same distance away, from our ears. This is closer to a home set up where we can sit in the exact middle of speakers to maximise the stereo effect, and be same distance from left and right speaker. Putting the speakers just in the kicks is not all there is too it, as the angle and position have a significant effect on imaging/staging.

Mounting

Now the tough part, how do we make sure our kick panel mounts image/stage properly or to their best? The simple answer is it takes a long answer :) Due to position and angle being critical it often is hard to play around with the speakers you will use, due to midrange needing enclosure and once you build this, you are committed to mounting angle and position and so cant adjust for angles or slight position changes etc. The answer is to use a small pair of speakers like Tandy's minmus7 speakers or similar. These are small but produce a fairly full range sound and so can be used to try positions and angles, to judge effect. Using back-strapping or small bean bags underneath, to support these test speakers, as this can allow you to accurately adjust positions etc and take time to evaluate each adjustment. Once the position and angles are determined for the best results, it is a matter of replicating or transferring these factors to final enclosure/panel. Making kicks is another story :) Do not be scared to play around with angles of up to about 45 degree from flat. The speakers should literally disappear, and placing where they are, with eyes shut is almost impossible, in a well-executed set up. Once we achieve this ideal situation, stage height usually is not an issue.

What If Kicks Are Not an Option

Does this mean that if you cannot use kicks you are doomed to poor stage/image? No, it just means perfection may be hard, if not impossible, to achieve, but improvements over factory mounting will still occur, but may take experimentation. If limited to door mounts then the first step is to angle the midrange up at least 15 degrees from flat. This will stop the speakers firing directly at each other and avoid standing wave issues. The trick is then to play around with tweeter position and angles to try to get the best possible results. I find a handy rule of thumb is to avoid moving tweeter any more than a hand span away from the midrange, as often going any further can result in a noticeable separation of mid and highs A pillar mounts don't suffer any height issues, that's for sure, but usually cause noticeable separation between mids and highs. The highs may appear to image well but if you play the 7 snare beat track, as used in IASCA competitions, then you will hear that this position does not usually image well with this track. A snare beat covers a lot of the frequency range and so, a lot more information than just the tweeters provide, is needed, to get these 7 snare beats, to line up ruler straight. The other problem with A pillar mounts is the reflections issue. Due to glass being highly reflective of sound waves, it usually pays to keep tweeters below any glass to avoid any possibility of a reflection. Glass will usually make treble overly bright and due to reflections will tend to blur or defocus imaging. It certainly does not help anything and can often result in extreme EQ adjustment to tame brightness, with out adding to imaging, apart from at a superficial level, and only compared to another poor position. There are no easy answers to a good stage and it is a very rare car, which exhibits a great stage.

Horn Loaded Compression Drivers

Some competitors resort to Horn Loaded Compression Drivers (HLCDs), as these always stage and image well, if mounted properly, but can suffer if not EQed heavily, and are a major hassle to fit in most cars and simply cant be fitted to some cars. HLCDs have the advantage of working from 20,000 Hz down to around 600 Hz, which is a huge section of the frequency range we are trying to reproduce, and so provides single point source (ideal). HLCDs can suffer from a honkyness, that is often due to resonance, poor design, cheap compression drivers etc, and often this effect is impossible to remove via EQ, and the better HLCDs, that don't do this, are often out of reach of the average person, due to high price. In Angelo Kanci's award winning BMW, the top of the range, Veritas HLCDs are used, these are then coated for resonance and have had the standard compression drivers replaced with Radian units. The Radian drivers are over $5000 worth alone, and this is added to HLCDs that cost around $4000 in the first place. This is obviously not the answer for most people, even if very serious about their sound quality. Anyway its never easy getting good results in any car, as we are compromised from the start, but often that means when we do get great results, the extra effort is worth while, and can be very rewarding.

Hope it helps
Peace
Cyberpunky

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