George Scott son ? of George Scott
and Margaret Sheedy/Sheehy
note: reference here to George Sheedy are still
subject to research and may change at any time.
Preface by Jenny Fawcett
George Scott is possibly the brother of
Richard Scott who was born in c 1820 in Limerick,the son
of George Scott and Margaret Sheedy/Sheehy and has possible
links with several Sheedy families.
George Scott arrived in Melbourne in 1841with his wife
Hanora McDonell [McDonald and etc] and son Patrick Scott
aboard the Royal Saxon.
In 1841 George Scott was listed as living in electoral
district of Bourke Ward in Melbourne, in 1846/47 he is
listed as living off Bourke Street, Melbourne and he
was a mason by trade. Also listed as living "off Bourke
Street Melbourne " was John Scott, sawyer, and Martin
Sheedy,[m Bridget Ryan].In 1848 George is listed in
electoral rolls as living in Ryrie Street Geelong.
In 1846 George was the successful tenderer for the erection
of the catholic chapel at Geelong. It is worth noting that
Richard Scott was noted as a successful carpenter upon
his arrival at Tower Hill. Also at Tower Hill was a
John Scott who was also a carpenter.He may be the
same John Scott listed as a sawyer living off Bourke St
Melbourne in 1847 possibly near or with George Scott.
George also ran a hotel in Ryrie Street Geelong. In 1851 George
Scott employed a Patrick Sheedy as a barman at his
hotel. Sheedy had formerly lived in Melbourne from 1841 - 50
where he held licences for hotels, and then moved to Geelong
in c1850. George Scott and Patrick Sheedy were involved in
a court case in 1851 when Scott was charged with assaulting
a prostitute who had knowledge of a stolen wallet belonging
to Sheedy.As George was well known in Melbourne and Geelong
the court case caused a sensation,especially as George
had the contract for the Catholic church.
George Scott's brother? Richard Scott moved to Tower Hill
near Port Fairy, and in later years, George Scott's wife
moved to Port Fairy and died there in 1870, being buried
in the Port Fairy cemetery.
Richard Scott farmed at Crossley and opposite his property
was the farms of Michael and Matthew
Sheedy from Co Clare, it is worth noting that the former
mentioned Patrick Sheedy was also from Co Clare.
See History below for further informatin.
Richard Scott
born: c1805? Ireland ?
parents: ? George Scott and Margaret Sheedy or Sheehy
# not confirmed
note:death cert of George's wife stated that
they married in West Ireland and that they
arrived c 1840 to Victoria.
died: possibly either
1.Geo Scott died 1858. age 38. address given
Little Ryrie Street Geelong
buried Geelong East Cemetery 13/04/1858
or
2,Geo Scott died 1855. age 40.
address: Geelong Gaol. inquest
buried East Geelong Cemetery 08/05/1855
note: this George was a vagrant.1855/227
buried:
arrived: 17th of July 1841,Melbourne, per Royal Saxon
with his wife Norah and son Patrick Scott.
pre 1846 to Geelong
wife Honora to Port Fairy pre 1870. [src:her death cert]
The Royal Saxon had London on the 1st of March
1841, calling next at Cork where it departed on the 19th
of that month. the vessel was 510 - 750 tons and under
the command of Captain Lodge, and carried 30 or 20
free paying passengers and 234 bounty emigrants.
literacy:
occupation: Mason
1846 - successful tenderer for the erection of
the Catholic Chapel at Geelong.
1848 - 1853. Hotel Owner, Ryrie Street Geelong.
married: in West Ireland, age unknown [src:death cert 8565]
to HONORA McDONELL [McDonald etc]
born c 1805. Ireland. [src:death cert]
parents: not stated on death certificate.
death:8th of November 1870.Port Fairy [src:death cert]
buried: Port Fairy Cemetery.
arrived 1841 with husband and son Patrick Scott aboard
the Royal Saxon at Melbourne.
Occupation = Late Publican of Geelong [src:death cert]
History
1841, arrived in Victoria on the 17th of July aboard
the Royal Saxon at Melbourne, with wife
Norah and son Patrick.
1843 , son John Scott born in Melbourne
listed on electoral rolls as living
in the Bourke Ward.
1845, son George Scott born in Melbourne
1846 son John Scott dies from accidental kick from horse.
burial records note that George SCott the father
was the successful tenderer for the erection of
the Catholic Chapel at Geelong.
Listed in 1846/47 postal directories as living
"off Bourke Street Melbourne" and his trade
is given as a mason. Also living off Bourke street
was John Scott,sawyer [came to T.Hill ?] and
Martin Sheedy, carter [m Bridget Ryan]
1847, son Richard Scott christened John on the
13th of June 1847.godparents: Michael and
Ellen McNamara..[note..Sheedy and McNamara
families are of the one 'clan' and use the
various names at personal leisure!
1848 son Richard Scott dies.buried Eastern Cemetery.
residence given as Corio [not the current
suburb but the bay front] on burial details.
listed as living in Ryrie Street Geelong
on the 1848 Electoral Roll Indexes.
source: "Geelong Hotels & Their Licensees"
by Bill Morrow and Ian Wynd ...
SCOTT's (Ryrie Street)
1848 George Scott.licence renewed for hotel
known as Scott's hotel.
1849 source: "Geelong Hotels & Their Licensees"
by Bill Morrow and Ian Wynd ...
1849 George Scott - granting of licence postponed
to 26th April when granted after Chief Constable
said house had recently been orderly.
1850 source: "Geelong Hotels & Their Licensees"
by Bill Morrow and Ian Wynd ...
Licence granted to George Scott for hotel known
as Scott's hotel in Ryrie Street.
1851 source: "Geelong Hotels & Their Licensees"
by Bill Morrow and Ian Wynd ...
Licence granted to George Scott for hotel known
as Scott's Hotel in Ryrie street.
The 1851 Postal Directory of Victoria records:-
George Scott. Licensed Victualler. Ryrie Street .Geelong.
Patk Sheedy. Laborer. Off Ryrie Street.Geelong.
Thos Bohanna. Boarding House Keeper. Ryrie Street.Geelong.
[the latter being brother in law to Patrick Sheedy above.]
COURT CASE RE GEORGE SCOTT'S ASSAULT OF A PROSTITUTE INVOLVING
PATRICK SHEEDY.
source: Melbourne Argus:
Police Office.Monday Morning.
George Scott: as this case has excited a great deal of
interest, and as Mr Scott is well known in Melbourne, I
send you the whole of the evidence brought forward today:-
{the article states the same as next article from the
Geelong Advertiser]
source: Geelong Advertiser
Court Case.Geelong
Police Office. Monday Morning
The Assault in Limerick Place.
George Scott was brought up on remand. The bench decided upon
holding him in bail himself in £100 and two sureties of £50 each.
It was ultimately determined that the evidence should be gone into.
The Chief Constable had subpeoned six witnesses who were in
attendance.
Mr Smith objected that the case could not be gone into in the
absence of the woman's evidence.
Mr Strachan.We have her depositions, and will take the evidence
as far as it goes.
Patrick Sheedy deposed:- I am barman at Scott's Hotel: remember
the night of the 21st of April, was at the house of James Green
in Limerick Place on that night. George Scott, the defendant was
there with me. I saw a woman there named Mary Burns; saw no
altercation between her and Scott. Scott and I were in the act
of looking after a man that we were informed had robbed me; and
we were there to see if we could get the man and give him into
charge,We stood at the front window and could hear a row inside.
We then went round to get in the back way. As we went in at the
back two men opened the door and out at the front: we
did not look after them. Polly Burns was lying on the ground;I
thought she was drunk: I took her up and put her on the sofa.
Her face was full of blood like; she was lying between the
sofa and the table like; her face,and all along her cheek like
and down her breast was covered with blood; did not see anybody
strike her; she did not make any complaint. There was a man
in the next room lying drunk. There was not any body in the
room where she lay. I asked her where the man was that had
been in her company all day. She said "some man has been ill
using me".
By Captain Fyans:-That was after 12 o'clock at night.
Mr Elliott, who appeared for the defendant Scott, objected to
this mode of taking evidence,observing, that according to the
woman's statement, she had sworn that Scott had assaulted her,
and when she should be examined, her evidence might be made
to fit in and dove-tail with this witness. There was a great
deal of inconvenience and injustice in it, and he would submit
that all the witnesses ought to be brought forward.
There had been a strong feeling created against him in the press,
which he must characterise as highly improper, and the defendant
would suffer except the examination were conducted with
impartiality, and in this view his colleague, Mr Smith,after
consulting with him coincided.
Mr Strachan:- Mr Smith should have objected in the first
instance.
Mr Elliott - There has been a surgeon's certificated handed to
the bench. I am in a position to say that this
woman has been seen walking about yesterday.
Captain Fyans - On Saturday I saw the woman lying in a dangerous
state, so I think your information must be wrong.
Mr Elliott - There is not any evidence that the injury has been
comitted by the defendant.
Mr STrachan - You have not heard all the evidence. Your remarks
are premature. Thee are six witnesses to be examined.
Sheedy, cross-examined by Mr Elliott:- I was informed that there
was a man stopping at Limerick place that robbed me
on Sunday; SCott went down with me to see if he knew him, and to take
him in charge. I did not know the man who robbed me. I have reason
to believe that Polly Burns was present at the robbery. I went into
the house by the back door. I found the woman lying between the
table and the sofa on her face and hands, her face was covered with
blood, my first act was to stand in the room and look round; I stood
before Scott; I picked her up from between the table and the sofa.
There was not room there for Scott to assault her. After I laid the
woman on the sofa, Scott only put his hand on her shoulder, and
asked her where the man was that had been in her company; she said
that she did not know, but that some one had been beating her.
I was not in the house more than ten minutes. Scott came out with
me, and went away with me. As we entered the back way, two men
opened the front door and went out.
When the deposition was over, the witness said that two or three
men went out; one of these was in a bushman's dress, another in
a sailors.
William Pitt,sawyer,deposed:- I was at Green's house Limerick Place,
I did not know the day of the month, it was Monday week; I do not
remember what time it was: I was there perhaps an hour, perhaps
not so much: I do not know what time it was when I went there: it
was about 10 or eleven o'clock: I have heard the name of Polly Ashton
or Mary Burns: I saw her there that night: I did not see the
defendant Scott there: I know a person named Patrick Sheedy: I did
not see him there, I saw no assault committed on the girl: or any
assault at all or anything of the kind.
By Mr Strachan - I do not know exactly how long I was there. I
did not hear of any assault whilst I was there, nor when I left.
James Green sworn:- I live in Limerick Place. I keep a house down
in that place. I know a girl named Polly Ashton or Burns:she lives
in my house, I remember Monday last she was there on that night.
I saw Scott there at near one o'clock at night: I saw no assault
committed; I did not know that any assault had been committed
until I saw two women carrying her upstairs.
Mr Strachan - I saw Scott in the house that night,Sheedy
was with him. They might have been in there half an hour or more.
I cannot tell because there is no clock in the house. My Missus
called me down and there was a row. Afterwards I took the woman
up the stairs. Scott and Sheedy were sitting on the sofa. There
was blood on the woman's face.
Captain Fyans - Who did you leave in the room with Scott.?
WItness - there was nobody but my Missus and Sheedy.
The Chief Constable - by permission of the Bench:asked who the
two girls were, that witnesses saw taking the woman up the stairs?
The witness said,one was Brown, the other Rebecca.
Cross-examined by Mr Elliott - I am proprietor of the
house.It is inhabited by a certain class of females. I saw Polly
before she was taken upstairs. She was neither drunk,or sober;
she had been drunk for several days. The women always get drunk.
They go out about six o'clock in the evening and get drunk. Before
she was taken up stairs, I did not hear any blow struck; I saw
Scott for the first time when I took the woman upstairs. There
were some men in the other apartments, there are two apartments
under one roof.
By Mr Strachan:- Before I went up the stairs I saw Polly Burns
in the same room that I saw Scott in. I thought she was going
to bed. She was not in the same room where the two men were. The
assault was committed between that time and when I came downstairs.
There was nobody in the room where the woman lay when I saw her.
By Captain Fyans - all the men went out before Scott came.
Mary Jones, alias Brown sworn:- I live in Corio Street, close
to the Watch-house, in Limerick-place, at Mr Greens. I was there
this day week at ngith; I saw Polly Ashton there in the early part
of the night. I did not see Scott there, but there were several
other men. I was in the yard when I heard the woman scream. I
was intoxicated at the time. I went and saw Mary Burns lying
on the floor,se was trying to lift herself up from the floor.
There was a little blood on her face. I was with the man of the
house trying to get her up. There was nobody else in the room.
By Mr Strachan;- She was lying on her arms when I saw her.There
are two tables and two sofas in the room. I did not assist her
on the sofa: found her on the floorl did not see her on the
sofa at all; did not see Scott or Sheedy there.She said that
she had been struck by Scott.
Mr Elliott submitted that the last reply of the witness could
not be taken as evidence.
By Captain Fyans:- - I saw her her before this on the same
evening but I cannot say whether she had any wounds or bruises
on her jaw.
Cross examined by Mr Elliott:- The room that she was in is not
very large, or very small. She lay between the two tables. She
was drunk at the time; and of course I was drunk myself.
Edward Marshall sworn:- I am cook at the Caledonian Hotel;
remember this night week; was at Green's house in Limerick Place,
but I do not remember at what hour;did not see Mary Ashton there,
and did not know about any assault or quarrell.
The Chief Constable observed that he had been instructed by
the Coroner to look after this witness particularly as he could
give important evidence.
By Mr Strachan - I do not remember anything. I was much the
worse for liquor.
Another witness was called but was not in attendance.
Mr Elliott - May I be permitted to ask the bench what course is to
be taken. I have a witness to call whose evidence will give quite
a different character to the act alleged. If this be the case
for the prosecution I will call him now, but there is not even
a case made out to hold the defendant to bail.
Mr Strachan - you can call the evidence now or leave it. Perhaps
it would be better for the defence to come in after the evidence
of the woman.
Mr Elliott - Certain depositions have been taken by a person who
would have been the Coroner if the woman had died, but I submit
they cannot be taken in a problematical case of assault. There is
not a single tittle of evidence to detain the man. HE trusted
impartial justice would done.Mr Elliot again reflected on
the reports of the newspapers, and the clamour of the public
against the defendant.
Mr Strachan;- The depositions of the woman must be taken.We have
decided that the case be remanded until Saturday. The only doubt
we have is whether the woman will be able to appear.
The prisoner was remanded accordingly under the amount of bail
mentioned at the commencement of this report.
note by J.Fawcett.we are still awaiting the report on the
outcome of the case.
1852 source: "Geelong Hotels & Their Licensees"
by Bill Morrow and Ian Wynd ...
Licence granted to George Scott for hotel
known as Scotts hotel in Ryrie Street.
1853 source: "Geelong Hotels & Their Licensees"
by Bill Morrow and Ian Wynd ...
John Power applied for a licence of Scott's hotel
but was refused on the grounds that repainting and
whitewashing had not improved the basic structure
of the house.
note by J.Fawcett.It is interesting to note here
that Power is the maiden name of the wife of
Matthew Sheedy of
Towerhill, formerly of Co Clare. Patrick Sheedy
was also from Co Clare and there is tenative links
with Matthew Sheedy of Tower Hill which is still
under research.
1854 source: "Geelong Hotels & Their Licensees"
by Bill Morrow and Ian Wynd ...
John Power was granted a new licence.
note: one suggestion from this book is that the hotel
became then known as the Princess of Wales.q.v
1855 - 1868 Carlow Hotel, Ryrie Street Geelong
CARLOW (Ryrie Street)
1855 John Bower granted licence
1856 John Power
1857 John Power
1858 Richard Scott. John Power refused -
no reason given
1859 Thomas O'Brien
1860 Thomas O'Brien
1861 Thomas O'Bryan
1862 Thomas O'Bryan
1863 Thomas O'Brien
1870, wife Honora dies in Port Fairy, buried at Port Fairy
cemetery. She is noted as late publican of Geelong.
Children Known
issue born in Ireland?
George Scott born 1845.Melbourne. [no 788 & 38640/153]
bapt: St Francis RC Church.Melbourne. 1845
Richard Scott born 5th of June 1847.Corio.Geelong.
bapt: 13th June 1847.St Mary's Church Geelong.
godparents: Michael & Helen[Ellen?] McNamara
[2386/31]
died: 1848.Corio.[surname SCOTS]
no 277/980 St Marys
buried: 14th of March.1848 Geel. East Cem
address of parent: Corio
John Scott born 1843.
bapt:1843 St Francis Church Melbourne
[36938/25]
died: 20th July 1846, age 3,
accidentally kicked by a horse
buried: 21st of July 1846.Geelong East Cem
inquest available.1846/no31
Family Researchers:
Notes
* = sighted original record.
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